Comments on: The NY Special Election: Budget Referrendum? Survey says . . .

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 30 May 2011 20:14:30 +0000

This was an interesting debate but I must take a huge exception to this comment by Jack: “The thing about Democrats, though, is that even though they seem to hate each other inside their party, they still all vote in lock-step at the polls.” If that was true then Ralph Nader would not have garnered any votes in 2000 and Al Gore would have won the presidency. You guys give the Dems entirely too much credit for political machine organization when they’re actually just as screwed up as everybody else.

By: KP

KP — Sun, 29 May 2011 04:24:45 +0000

Jack and others, thanks for the valuable debate.

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By: Jack Camwell

Jack Camwell — Fri, 27 May 2011 16:57:44 +0000

I agree with that assessment John. It’s only fair to give everyone a voice, even if we don’t necessarily agree with it, but if we want to beat the Democrats then we have to be just as disciplined as them at the polls.

By: John Galt

John Galt — Fri, 27 May 2011 16:51:41 +0000

The Tea Party should only be a contestant in the primary process. It should never enter a third candidate once the Republican candidate has been chosen. It would divide the conservative vote. But it is fair to allow it to determine who that Republican candidate is in a fair primary contest. The Libertarians should have the same opportunity in the primary process only – and ‘only’ is the determinate word if we want to beat the Democrats in the national election. And to beat this new Progressive-Democratic Party is to save America. Petty (or not petty) quarrels need to be put aside.

By: Always On Watch

Always On Watch — Fri, 27 May 2011 16:00:49 +0000

The Dems’ political propaganda goes beyond trying to deceive the people. Rather, it is a form of self-delusion.

By: Jack Camwell

Jack Camwell — Fri, 27 May 2011 14:32:43 +0000

I’m inclined to believe it was the third party “plant.” I suppose I didn’t look at it that way before, but I suppose it makes sense.

I don’t see the Tea Party as a good thing in terms of conservative solidarity. There’s a two party system for a reason. The Democrats crap allover each other all the time; “you’re not progressive enough,” or “you’ve betrayed the people!” The thing about Democrats, though, is that even though they seem to hate each other inside their party, they still all vote in lock-step at the polls.

The Tea Party is going to fracture the Republican Party if it ever organizes itself as a political party, and that would mean a long period of Democrat reign I think. Of course that is all speculation, but we saw how the Tea Party candidate likely ruined Jane Corwin in NY.

By: John Galt

John Galt — Fri, 27 May 2011 13:28:34 +0000

I agree with JC’s view that as a Democratic Party test it worked; the only confusion is that the question remains weather the false third party plant worked or the demagoguing of Medicare worked.
That is the question. Even the two smartest conservatives disagree in this issue – Karl Rove and the WSJ. I think it was both; or as a 2012 strategist I would treat both factors equally important. And this is the silver lining – we have the head’s up. The Republican candidate, who ever it is, must find a solution to both.
I also agree with CT on the solutions he gave us in his piece for the later – the demagoguing of Medicare. But the former – a third party plant – can only be solved if the Tea Party formalizes its movement into an official political Party where they can control who runs under their banner.

By: Country Thinker

Country Thinker — Fri, 27 May 2011 11:45:44 +0000

The antidote is principled talking points. Take the absurd ad showing the GOP throwing grandma off the cliff. Don’t respond directly to the ad, but to the issue. “Where is the Dem plan to stop grandma from falling off the cliff? There is none because they don’t care. They’re worried more about bureaucrats than grandma.” That’s what I’d say.

By: Steve Dennis

Steve Dennis — Fri, 27 May 2011 10:34:44 +0000

The left is going to try to use this to intimidate the Washington Republicans in the upcoming budget debate and I can only hope that the Republicans do not back down and stand up for what is right.