Importing Prescription Drugs from Canada

Sunday, December 13, 2009
By Mike

Senate debate on health care reform came to an abrupt halt this week over a proposal from Sen. Byron Dorgan (Dem-ND) to allow the reimportation of FDA-approved drugs from Canada and other countries. Dorgan’s proposal throws a monkey-wrench into the agreement between the White House and big pharma (and Max Baucus) to limit industry contributions to health reform to $80 billion over ten years in exchange for support of a health care reform bill. Senator Obama supported and sponsored a similar bill but given the understanding with big pharma and the importance of health reform the White House is trying to convince Democrats to oppose Dorgan’s bill. Several Republicans have joined as co-sponsors but the pharma industry is arguing strenuously against the bill and Republicans who support the bill purely with the intention of defeating the larger health care bill will get a chilly response when they go looking for campaign contributions in the future. Sen. Olympia Snowe, however, is a lead co-sponsor of the bill – we needn’t review her importance to this process. The debate was put on hold over the weekend and health reform leaders are no doubt working hard to defeat the bill or find an acceptable compromise before Monday. 

Dorgan has championed this issue for many years. Senators from states with big pharma companies are unanimously opposed – big surprise. The argument usually put forward by opponents deals with safety issues and the inability to control quality product. But Dorgan insists his bill addresses all safety concerns saying “My amendment includes strong safeguards to prohibit drug counterfeiting and other practices that would put the consumer at risk.” I have to say that my concern with buying prescription drugs from a well-known Canadian drug wholesaler or pharmacist is pretty close to zero; but I don’t think I’d be buying directly from China or India no matter how large the savings. The safety issue strikes me as a pathetic political attempt to kill Dorgan’s bill. And the potential savings to American consumers are enormous – almost $100 billion over 10 years which is considerably more than the $80 billion deal negotiated with big pharma. 

So is it worth it? Is Dorgan’s proposal a good idea? 

Let’s forget the politics for a moment and talk about whether, in isolation, this makes sense. The economics of drug pricing are ridiculous. Countries with centralized health care (most of the Western world) negotiate drug prices at the government level and impose price caps that pharmaceutical companies can’t ignore. Pfizer can either sell its drugs to Canada at a price the government is willing to pay or they can forego the Canadian market. In the US there is no such strong negotiating body. When Congress passed the Medicare Plan D prescription drug benefit they specifically prohibited Medicare/Medicaid from negotiating prices with big pharma. That was a pretty handsome gift to the drug companies care of the Republican Congress. And now, as health care reform is being negotiated, there is considerable suspicion that drug prices have been jacked up ahead of the legislation. One commentary I read said that a few simple phone calls made in 2008 generated the following comparative prices for 90 tablets of Lipitor: from CVS $362 and from a reputable Canadian online pharmacy $215.46. How can this not be a good thing for US consumers? 

OK, so that’s my question – on the whole, is this good for US consumers? And by that I mean, is it the US consumer who will see the savings? Recently I read an article about the Cleveland Clinic and how it’s able to deliver the highest quality patient care in the nation while keeping costs substantially below the national average. Cleveland Clinic benefits from it’s renowned reputation in heart care and attracts patients from around the country and around the world; but CCs revenues are considerably lower than that of its competitors and that benefit rarely accrues to CC. The beneficiaries of CCs approach to medicine are the insurance companies who reimburse CC substantially less than other hospitals for the exact same procedure. So, who’s going to benefit from lower prescription drug prices if wholesalers import from Canada? Is it the consumer or is it the insurance company? That is, who pays for the great percentage of prescription drugs purchased in this country, patients or their insurers? I don’t know the answer and I’m interested in any feedback from any informed person. But if the answer is that Medicare, Medicaid, and insurance companies pay for the bulk of drug purchases then I have a hard time looking at Canadian purchases as adding great value to our health system. 

My other concern is new drug research. I’ve mentioned before my involvement with a cancer center. There are nearly 900 cancer drugs in clinical trials right now. Pfizer alone has 1000 researchers working on new cancer drugs. I hate the fact that we, the US consumer, essentially pay for that to the benefit of all the other countries around the world that pay substantially less for brand name, patent protected medications. And I hate the fact that year in and year out big pharma reports the highest profits of any industry. But if we cut too deeply into big pharma’s revenues the first thing they will do is reduce their R&D budget. Can Pfizer make do with only 500 cancer drug developers? Sure and maybe that’s what needs to happen because we will never know what drug wasn’t discovered by cutting research budgets. But is that what’s best for all of us? I’ll leave the question out there for each person to consider. Also consider that big pharma could simply raise prices to Canada (though Dorgan says his bill would prohibit that) and large US demand could reduce availability for Canadians leading Canada to take protective measures. That would limit the benefits while leaving the negative domestic political consequences intact.

Of course, tomorrow we will see this decision made without due consideration to the merits of the argument. Politics will prevail and I’d expect some compromise to surface. The most logical outcome to me would be a further concession from big pharma to increase their contribution from $80 billion (how is that supposed to happen anyway?) to $100 billion to match the expected benefits of opening importation to Canadian drugs. Deals are being made behind closed doors as they have since Harry Reid assumed control over this process. It’s extremely disturbing to see a bill of such magnitude be shrouded in mystery and the details kept from all but a handful of people. I’d like to see a health care bill pass but this process is just infuriating.

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9 Responses to “Importing Prescription Drugs from Canada”

  1. Ron Russell says:

    The ends and outs of this debate are mind blowing. The only thing that I know for sure is this some will benefit from this while other will suffer. Lobbying groups are pushing congress on both sides of almost every issue. Sweeping changes included in this bill are dangerous when taken as a whole and this issue should be settled with tiny steps and not a total and complete overhaul in one massive bill no one understands. Its just to damn big with the end result uncertain and troubling to most Americans who are beginning to worry about the massive debts incurred by such vast government experimentations.
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  2. LD Jackson says:

    Well, the plot seems to get thicker with each passing day, doesn’t it, Mike. I have to agree that it is disturbing, and I would add frustrating, to see such an important piece of legislation negotiated behind closed doors like this. I am afraid you and I, the general public of America, are only being told what those who are negotiating these “compromises” want us to know.

    As to your question about who is actually paying the largest percentage of the cost of prescription drugs, I tried to do a quick Google search but couldn’t find an answer. That answer could be very revealing, in that it would explain who would actually benefit from such a deal. It might even raise an eyebrow or two.

    Another great post, Mike. Keep up the good work.

  3. Matt says:

    I happen to agree Mike. This issue is very complicated, with many interest groups putting their tentacles into the mix. My only question, and I have yet to find an adequate answer from any source, is this: Do we pay for the lower costs paid by everyone else? You allude to that Mike, but are there some concrete figures out there that point that out.? I agree with your point on that particular issue, but having the money trail is good too.

    Profits don’t concern me. They earned it, and there are likely many retirement and investment plans that spread some of that around. I do have issues with corporations, or any other entity for that matter, having undue influence via contributions. That might be solved by only letting voters contribute. That would make the playing field a bit more even.

    • Mike says:

      Your question is a good one Matt but without a clear answer. As I said, the economics of drug pricing are crazy. Obviously the actual cost of producing pills is quite small so how does pharma determine a price for its drugs? I don’t know the answer but I’m sure demand and disease are overriding factors. Cancer drugs save lives — they charge more for them. ED drugs aren’t unique so they can’t charge nearly so much. Whatever price they can get for their drugs is better than nothing so they negotiate as best they can with governments like Canada. Perhaps my comment that US consumers are paying for the R&D is misleading but I think my point is correct. If big pharma sold their drugs in the US at the same price they sold them to Canada profits would plunge and so would R&D budgets. I wish I could give you hard numbers but I can’t.

      • Tina says:

        Yes but the demand for the drugs is much higher in the US due to the much larger population. You would think that the country that has researched, developed and manufactured the drug would be able to sell it within it’s own country at a price that is comparable with other countries. It is utterly ridiculous. I live in Canada for most of my life and I am blown away by the fees for medical service and prescriptions here in the US.

        • Mike says:

          Thanks for commenting Tina. Yes, the population here is much larger but there is no central body negotiating price on behalf of any group as large as the Canadian population. If Medicare/Medicaid were able to negotiate drug prices and establish a ceiling similar to what Canada has imposed then we would be getting somewhere; but Congress specifically denied that practice. As you said, utterly ridiculous.

  4. Gary says:

    I for one wouldn’t mind this as long as there are safety precautions taken, which it seems this bill addresses. I can tell you this, with my insurance, the visit to the doctor isn’t what costs me, that’s only a 10 dollar copay. It’s the cost of the medicine that gets me. It’s not uncommon for a copay to run between 50 and 100 bucks, depending on what it is. It has come to the point that we keep a list of preferred drugs in the car so we can take it in when we have to see the doc and we make sure what ever he is going to prescribe is on that list and generic if possible. If we don’t, the cost skyrockets when we get to the pharmacy. And this isn’t any run of the mill insurance company. It is United Healthcare, one of the largest in the country.

  5. LD Jackson says:

    Both amendments dealing with the importation of prescription drugs into the United States have been defeated. I honestly do not know who pays the brunt of the cost of these drugs, but it would appear American citizens are doing it. If that is the case, then I have a question for those in Congress who are proclaiming health care reform as a means and a method of reducing health care costs. Why would these amendments be voted down, considering the fact that they would save Americans real dollars that they have to pay for prescription drugs? I am afraid there is something swimming around in the water here and it isn’t just another fish.

    • Mike says:

      I think the answer to your question is that a deal was made with big pharma in exchange for their support of health care reform including big media spending. A break of that deal could turn the table and see pharma turn against health reform and the media money spent on opposition ads. I’m not supporting that logic or that decision but I think that would be the answer from Harry Reid and company.

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