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		<title>By: LD Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.ldjackson.net/news-politics/can-americans-afford-cap-and-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-4991</link>
		<dc:creator>LD Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Mr. Pink Eyes. This legislation will accomplish nothing except to raise the price of energy for the citizens of this country and will do nothing for emissions and greenhouse gases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Mr. Pink Eyes. This legislation will accomplish nothing except to raise the price of energy for the citizens of this country and will do nothing for emissions and greenhouse gases.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pink Eyes</title>
		<link>http://www.ldjackson.net/news-politics/can-americans-afford-cap-and-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Pink Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you just love the way that people who oppose cap and trade are portrayed as not caring about the environment? I also care about the environment but do not support the cap and trade bill. 
 You hit the nail on the head, if energy companies are taxed they will pass the tax on to the consumers. They see the tax as a business expense, as part of the cost of doing business, and the costs are always passed on to the customer. People need to understand this. 
You brought up something that I hadn&#039;t thought about and that is the way the energy price increases will affect other businesses who will in turn pass those costs on to the consumer. Virtually everything that is purchased will go up in price.
  This bill is a disaster waiting to happen.
.-= Mr Pink Eyes&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/10/11/lindsay-graham-supports-the-cap-and-trade-bill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lindsay Graham supports the cap and trade bill&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you just love the way that people who oppose cap and trade are portrayed as not caring about the environment? I also care about the environment but do not support the cap and trade bill.<br />
 You hit the nail on the head, if energy companies are taxed they will pass the tax on to the consumers. They see the tax as a business expense, as part of the cost of doing business, and the costs are always passed on to the customer. People need to understand this.<br />
You brought up something that I hadn&#8217;t thought about and that is the way the energy price increases will affect other businesses who will in turn pass those costs on to the consumer. Virtually everything that is purchased will go up in price.<br />
  This bill is a disaster waiting to happen.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Mr Pink Eyes&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/10/11/lindsay-graham-supports-the-cap-and-trade-bill/" rel="nofollow">Lindsay Graham supports the cap and trade bill</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Al Franken wins Minnesota Senate race &#124; My Take</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Franken wins Minnesota Senate race &#124; My Take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the current cap and trade legislation passing the House of Representatives by a narrow margin, due in no small part to eight Republicans [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Keegan</title>
		<link>http://www.ldjackson.net/news-politics/can-americans-afford-cap-and-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cap and trade is completely wrong for our country, imposing an onerous tax on businesses which will be passed on to consumers. It it based on the premise that man is causing global warming and that if we don&#039;t intervene, then the world will be toast.

Lately, voices opposing the theory of global warming have been speaking out around the world. Of course, media folks don&#039;t tell you this which means that most Americans remain woefully uninformed regarding climate change and what that means. Businesses are silent because they&#039;ll pass on their costs to consumers who will soon learn how much this program will cost them with very little effect on improving the environment:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/247787
.-= Matt Keegan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sayeducate.com/2009/06/30/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-car-scrappage-program/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What You Need To Know About The Car Scrappage Program&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap and trade is completely wrong for our country, imposing an onerous tax on businesses which will be passed on to consumers. It it based on the premise that man is causing global warming and that if we don&#8217;t intervene, then the world will be toast.</p>
<p>Lately, voices opposing the theory of global warming have been speaking out around the world. Of course, media folks don&#8217;t tell you this which means that most Americans remain woefully uninformed regarding climate change and what that means. Businesses are silent because they&#8217;ll pass on their costs to consumers who will soon learn how much this program will cost them with very little effect on improving the environment:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/247787" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/247787</a><br />
<span class="cluv"> Matt Keegan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.sayeducate.com/2009/06/30/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-car-scrappage-program/" rel="nofollow">What You Need To Know About The Car Scrappage Program</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My concern is how the Obama administration and some Democrats seem to be willing to raise energy prices to the ceiling, in an attempt to force us to change the kind of energy we use. I know you and I do not necessarily see eye to eye on this, but they are going to make it very difficult for a lot of families to make ends meet, if the utility bills go up like some are saying they will. I fully realize we need to make some changes, but we do not need to bankrupt our citizens in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My concern is how the Obama administration and some Democrats seem to be willing to raise energy prices to the ceiling, in an attempt to force us to change the kind of energy we use. I know you and I do not necessarily see eye to eye on this, but they are going to make it very difficult for a lot of families to make ends meet, if the utility bills go up like some are saying they will. I fully realize we need to make some changes, but we do not need to bankrupt our citizens in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Obama public relations machine broke down. I definitely don&#039;t understand aspects of this bill (companies can opt to reduce emissions in OTHER countries rather than reduce their own output at home!!) and I have no idea if there are better, cheaper, more efficient or effective ways of achieving our national goals; but I do know those goals can be articulated much better. Energy independence is a national security issue! This bill WILL create jobs in new energy technologies, it WILL reduce our dependence on foreign oil and remove energy issues from the equation in foreign policy discussions, it WILL drive down the price of oil in the long term, it WILL eliminate any power that radical Muslim nations may otherwise hold, and it WILL be good for our country in the years to come. 

Are the Obama numbers right? Are the Heritage Foundation numbers right? Are John Boehner&#039;s numbers right? I don&#039;t trust any of them. They all have a political agenda. They all tell half truths to make their case more compelling. And besides long term numbers of this sort are absolutely impossible to predict. Where will oil prices be in 2012 when this bill takes effect? in 2020? in 2035? How much of our energy will be produced by wind, solar, and nuclear in 2035?  There are elements of consumer energy-saving like new building codes, energy efficient appliances, improved gas mileage on new vehicles, etc that can and will save consumers considerable amounts. What&#039;s the net impact? Who knows. CBO says the average increase in consumer bill by 2020 will be $175 per year, vary considerably based on income, and increase in years further out. I trust their numbers more than anybody else because they have no political agenda. Both sides have taken pieces from the CBO numbers to support their case and criticize the other but nobody ever accuses the CBO of political ends. 

I&#039;m sure the Senate will whittle away at this legislation and the conference to follow will refine things further. But I do hope we get something out of this process. If we&#039;d been treating the environment and our energy independence issues properly the past 30 years our energy costs would have been higher as the fixes now proposed would have been implemented over time. We&#039;ve been dumping our trash in the lake and now it&#039;s time to clean up that lake and figure out someplace else to put our garbage. It costs money and we are the ones who have to pay it and should have been paying all this time. For the environment and for our national security some dramatic steps need to be taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Obama public relations machine broke down. I definitely don&#8217;t understand aspects of this bill (companies can opt to reduce emissions in OTHER countries rather than reduce their own output at home!!) and I have no idea if there are better, cheaper, more efficient or effective ways of achieving our national goals; but I do know those goals can be articulated much better. Energy independence is a national security issue! This bill WILL create jobs in new energy technologies, it WILL reduce our dependence on foreign oil and remove energy issues from the equation in foreign policy discussions, it WILL drive down the price of oil in the long term, it WILL eliminate any power that radical Muslim nations may otherwise hold, and it WILL be good for our country in the years to come. </p>
<p>Are the Obama numbers right? Are the Heritage Foundation numbers right? Are John Boehner&#8217;s numbers right? I don&#8217;t trust any of them. They all have a political agenda. They all tell half truths to make their case more compelling. And besides long term numbers of this sort are absolutely impossible to predict. Where will oil prices be in 2012 when this bill takes effect? in 2020? in 2035? How much of our energy will be produced by wind, solar, and nuclear in 2035?  There are elements of consumer energy-saving like new building codes, energy efficient appliances, improved gas mileage on new vehicles, etc that can and will save consumers considerable amounts. What&#8217;s the net impact? Who knows. CBO says the average increase in consumer bill by 2020 will be $175 per year, vary considerably based on income, and increase in years further out. I trust their numbers more than anybody else because they have no political agenda. Both sides have taken pieces from the CBO numbers to support their case and criticize the other but nobody ever accuses the CBO of political ends. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the Senate will whittle away at this legislation and the conference to follow will refine things further. But I do hope we get something out of this process. If we&#8217;d been treating the environment and our energy independence issues properly the past 30 years our energy costs would have been higher as the fixes now proposed would have been implemented over time. We&#8217;ve been dumping our trash in the lake and now it&#8217;s time to clean up that lake and figure out someplace else to put our garbage. It costs money and we are the ones who have to pay it and should have been paying all this time. For the environment and for our national security some dramatic steps need to be taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by DynaBMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by DynaBMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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