Comments on: Michigan GOP Controversy – Where Are The Delegates?

By: Driftforge

Driftforge — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:15:06 +0000

The establishment doesn't like it so much when the same shoe is on the other foot. Ron Paul - been there, done that.

By: John Galt

John Galt — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:00:30 +0000

- How do you know who is sure to lose the Republican nomination?
- When he starts saying that it is all about “delegates’.

By: LD Jackson

LD Jackson — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:54:33 +0000

Stories like the one you have shared make my blood boil. The national party clearly manipulates the system for its own advantage. Personally, I think weasel is much too nice of a word.

By: LD Jackson

LD Jackson — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:52:10 +0000

Ahh, I see said the blind man.

By: LD Jackson

LD Jackson — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:51:41 +0000

It is true that Ron Paul is focused on the delegates. I also agree that he is looking past 2012. If not for him, then certainly for his son, Rand.

By: steven birn

steven birn — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:18:52 +0000

This is nothing for the moderates who control the Michigan GOP. In 2008 all of the moderates, including the ringleader Saul Anuzis, were in the McCain camp. Of course Romney won the primary but McCain won all of the delegates. How? The moderates rigged the state party convention so that only McCain delegates were up for election. No one realized what was going on until it was to late to nominate other delegates.

In 2008 it created annoyance among Republicans in Michigan. But it didn’t create outrage because by the time the stunt was pulled McCain was the clear winner nationally. Had the delegates mattered it likely would have created a statewide outrage.

It’s unsurprising that the same weasels who orchestrated 2008 are tossing aside the rules and stealing a delegate from Santorum.

By: Jim at Conservatives on Fire

Jim at Conservatives on Fire — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 18:01:17 +0000

In a country as big as the US, it appears impossible to design a nominating system in which all the people can have an equal voice.

By: bill

bill — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:58:38 +0000

i’m glad somebody knows what’s in the weeds, thanks driftforge…b

By: Driftforge

Driftforge — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:04:01 +0000

Most of the ‘caucuses’ held so far have not yet elected delegates. That’s why they don’t’ lose numbers like the early primaries do – the initial selection of county or precinct delegates is just step 1.

Oh – and it is the selection of those local delegates that is the critical vote that takes place in terms of delegate numbers, not the concurrent poll.

So while the MSM suggests Ron Paul has ~ 20 delegates, it is more likely that he is around 90 at this stage, in front of both Gingrich and Santorum.

By: Driftforge

Driftforge — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:00:19 +0000

From everything I’ve seen, Ron Paul is focusing now on picking up delegates – in which he is still in second place – and doing everything he can to see that once delegates unbind his people are in place.

Failing a state win to get some momentum going, I don’t see there is much else he can do.

But the bigger picture remains the growth of the movement. Everything is being set up to continue to grow into 2016. Regardless of any other outcome, ‘Ron Paul Republicans’ are going to be ‘infesting’ the system for the next 4 years.

Unlike the other candidates, it’s not all about 2012. Sure, a win would be nice. But a win this time, or a higher platform to keep on…